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Steiner
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I think the only "20 round" ones you can get are the TM 190 rounders.



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Posted : 28/07/2008 4:39 pm
spiers
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Yeh 20rd Thompson Mags hold 190rds. You get em from G&G


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Posted : 28/07/2008 6:31 pm
Helga Geerhart
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well he's got an original uniform :rofl: can he come and play ?



 
Posted : 28/07/2008 7:34 pm
Chomley-Warner
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Aww, cute!

(Gas powered TV Helga??)


 
Posted : 28/07/2008 7:40 pm
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my latest idea to save money calor gas powerd tv it works by not working so saveings all round :rofl:


theres nowt so Permanent as temporary




 
Posted : 28/07/2008 7:43 pm
Mr_Flibble
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Franka Rollfix camera.

My grandfather took this from a German PoW in Italy during the war.
(I only found out about this yesterday when my Dad gave me the camera.)

The shutter seems to work fine... I wonder if it's still usable... hmmm...

Nice bit of history that. Fire the shutter a few times on all settings. That get's the dried out grease going a bit if
it is showing some hesitation. What kind of lens are we talking about? 105mm? Shutterspeeds? f-stops?

120 film is a little harder to get hold of these days, many shops don't stock it anymore, but they can usually order it for you.
I've just gotten 5 rolls of Kodak BW400CN 120 film from Hong Kong for a very reasonable price. Most photo-stores can
develop it in-house, no need to send it on to a pro-lab.

On CW's comment on "Might not be so sharp as modern equivalents"; I find some of the simpler lenses from the 1930s
offer just as great images as modern day lenses. www.shorpy.com is full of pictures taken with early cameras and
their sharpness did surprise me to no end. ;)


Example from my No.2 Box Brownie. that has a single meniscus lens..



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Posted : 28/07/2008 9:20 pm
 Yith
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The shutter shows no hesitation whatsoever! It has three speeds... 1/100, 1/50, 1/25. Plus Bulb and 'T'?

The lens is F6.3, though I can't remember the focal length. The F stop setting will go through to F22.

CW has sent me some colour 120 film he had lying around... plus I notice that Jessops have both colour and B&W in their catalogue (£3.50 per roll) and say I can pick it up from the local shop. There's a professional film developer who can develop it all for me in my local area... I've contacted them to check.

So all looks good to go!


 
Posted : 29/07/2008 8:37 am
Steiner
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Pair of M43 Feldgrau trousers from Suesue - really nice quality and a good price.



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Posted : 29/07/2008 9:20 am
 Yith
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Reproduction ATP watch made by RAMC181 on the WWII re-enacting forums
120 film from CW... :)


 
Posted : 29/07/2008 9:26 am
Mr_Flibble
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Yith, I don't know how adapt you are with manual cameras.

I assume CW sent you 200 or 400 ISO film. Modern C-41 film is a lot more forgiving on exposure errors. Some settings that might help you out:

Sunny weather: ISO 200 film, 1/100th Shutterspeed, f16 stop.
Light overcast: ISO 200 film, 1/100th Shutterspeed, f11 stop.
dark overcast: ISO 200 film, 1/100th Shutterspeed, f8 stop.

Sunny weather: ISO 400 film, 1/100th Shutterspeed, f22 stop.
Light overcast: ISO 400 film, 1/100th Shutterspeed, f16 stop.
Dark overcast: ISO 400 film, 1/100th Shutterspeed, f11 stop.

Oh, and T stands for "Time" Exposure.



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Posted : 29/07/2008 10:03 am
 Yith
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The last time I used manual cameras was waaay back when I was a little kid. My dad has a 60s Voigtlander he used and my other Grandfather had something similar, but older. I'm not sure what happened to that. I've never used 120 film before though, but CW has given me a quick guide to loading it, etc...

I have done my own development and the like in the past and have fond memories of doing B&W development both in the dark room at school and in our garage with my Dad. I even got into doing some Photographic astronomy and managed a rather good B&W photo of the moon through my telescope, unfortunately I scratched the negative and never got around to trying for a second time.

The film CW sent me is 100 ISO, at least that's what he tells me, it doesn't say on the packets... heh

Your tables will definitely help, thanks! However my dad will be lending me his lightmeter at the weekend... so I should be able to get more accurate settings... :)

BTW, my Dad took one reel of film in this camera after his step dad gave it to him some time after the war... This is the one good shot he got from it... heh...

Oh yeah, one more thing... I assume the focus settings on this camera will be in metres?


 
Posted : 29/07/2008 10:31 am
Ramsay00105
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Will you have ATP at Crich? I am interested in seeing it.




 
Posted : 29/07/2008 10:55 am
 Yith
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Yes... I will have it with me... :)


 
Posted : 29/07/2008 10:55 am
imp1864
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Lufty shouldeboards, this time with the correct colours as opposed to SOF's version. Does any one want lufty shoulder boards for HG field police impression?



 
Posted : 29/07/2008 11:09 am
Mr_Flibble
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Lightmeter?! That's cheating! ;) I just like being able to calculate reasonable correct exposure settings by eye.

Sunny: 100 ISO, 1/100th, F11
Light Overcast: F8
Dark Overcast: F6.3

I would imagine a German camera meant for a German market has a focus scale in meters. If the lowest distance value is 4 or 5 I would think it is in feet. If it's 1,25 or so is probably meters.

Good luck. It looks like a fun shooter.

*goes back to petting his Leicas*

Oh, and to get back on-top.
I received a Leica reloadable film cassette yesterday, unfortunately it was marked GMBH...so it's post-war :(



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Posted : 29/07/2008 11:48 am
 Yith
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Its minimum focus value is 2...


 
Posted : 29/07/2008 11:54 am
McVickers
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I think the only "20 round" ones you can get are the TM 190 rounders.

Yup, that's why I want to see if I can cut these Chinese (Cyma) hi-caps down to the 20rnd size. If I had some of the 190bb TM '20rnd-ers', I'd just keep them as they are.


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Posted : 29/07/2008 12:34 pm
Chomley-Warner
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Its minimum focus value is 2...

Yes, it's metres. Film I gave you is 160ASA so given the shutter will be running slow the a setting of 200 will be fine. No need to be stressed though as the film has good latitude and meh, it's was a cheap camera in it's day so just getting a recognisable image will be cool, a cracking photo a bonus! It's going to hard enough not to get double exposures let alone a correct one!

Off topic - just bought a 1957 Contaflex Beta with three lenses for £100. Going to give it to my Dad as that's what he used for all our childhood slides until he part ex'd it for some modern sh*t at which point his results and interest plummeted! Hope he gives it back to me though for my display cabinets (at 75 he is happy with auto digital snappy thing now - sign of the times :evil: )


 
Posted : 29/07/2008 1:19 pm
Mr_Flibble
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My second Leica IIIc finally arrived! Red Curtain Shutter, no slow-speed dial lock. Nice example of a Pre-1942 IIIc. It has a post-war base-plate though :(
And another thing...The lens advertised in the description appears to be absent.. :?
Add that to the extra $780 Charge this company made to my creditcard for no reason I can think off :evil:

I doubt I'll be buying from him again.....



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Posted : 29/07/2008 4:31 pm
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mp 40 sling. ( and almost a late war brit airborne helmet from an antiques room in sheffield, he wanted 245 quid and wouldnt move on the price, i was prepared to pay 200 cash,,,,,, his loss lol )


 
Posted : 29/07/2008 4:38 pm
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